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Is it really larger than expected? Or could it simply be a reflection of how popular Toyota cars are in general?


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I’d agree with their judgement. But I think it’s very subjective. Different parts of the world have different averages.

To me the Toyota range is like this:

- Yaris: compact

- Corolla: mid sized

- Camry: full size


Toyota are the largest car manufacturer in the world...

My local Toyota dealer has about 25 new cars on their lot instead of 150+, that sounds like a pretty big hit.

A Toyota Camry isn’t a small car.

and a model of toyota.

Toyota sells 10 mil The idea was that would show that trend holds at a large volume.

i happened to look up the latter question. Toyota does about 10M cars/year, so this is about 10% of toyota, which is way closer than i expected.

Cautionary tale? Some excerpts from Toyota's press page[0]

  - Toyota is projected to be the number one retail brand for the 12th consecutive year
  - Electrified vehicle sales – battery, hybrids, plug-ins and fuel cells – surge 30 percent and make up nearly one-third of total sales volume
  - Projected to be the number one seller of passenger vehicles for the 12th consecutive year, and 20 of the last 21 years
  - 2023 electrified vehicles sales of 565,800 represent 29.3 percent of total sales volume
  - Corolla projected to be the number one compact car in America
  - RAV4 best-selling SUV in the U.S. for 7th consecutive year
You can also just look at Toyota stock killing it vs SPY[1] over the past year

[0] https://pressroom.toyota.com/toyota-motor-north-america-repo... [1] https://www.google.com/finance/quote/TM:NYSE?window=1Y&compa...


It really is amazing. Another way to visualize this success is to consider how physically close you are to one of Toyota’s products right now, sort of a K-nearest neighbors idea. And how many of those were manufactured in Japan, and considered notable within their category (ex: 4Runner, RAV4 Prime).

50 000 is not much. Toyota sells 10 million+ vehicles per year.

20 million annually? Because Toyota sold nearly 6 million cars in a year.

What does this have to do with Toyota?

And a car that seems to have achieved something that others haven't, is licensing its technology to Toyota, and is selling cars that people want and are excited about. Other than that, yes, just hype.

It's still just a car. Toyota alone sold 10x more in 2021, not produced but sold.

The picture isn't complete unless you also compare it with Toyota.

Well, Toyota (the company) certainly is.

You think so? Trust in measurements to qualify for government regulation are in question, not car performance or appearance. Toyota sales have not dipped surreptitiously (demand increased in oct).

http://www.autoblog.com/2015/11/04/october-2015-the-better-t...


And now Toyota cars have a fantastic reputation for reliability. Surprise, surprise.

For reference (because if you’re like me you have no scale for this), this is about 10% of what Toyota does, which is way closer than I’d expected.
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