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I'm assuming it's just the general term for a 'piece of transmitted information', no matter what the medium.


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I just define it for myself as "If it can transmit information, it could also be used given enough technology to send any kind of data, such as a Microsoft word document."

I believe it just describes the display of the data (i.e. plain text).

This is about distribution. The whole concept of media is inherently related to distribution (of information). It's in the very etymology of the word.

Metadata. In this case, the broadcaster's general location and the timing and (I suppose) size of the messages. And perhaps known/guessed plaintext attacks: if you too have a weather ship in the same area you can guess at the content.

I wish I knew what exactly "information" is in this context. I know a couple of definitions, but none seems to match.

but it is for sharing information and i'd argue that information can come in the form of photos, video, documents, links etc..

How would you define information?

What information do you mean?

I'm sorry, I thought you were speaking technically. "An extra bit of information" could easily be mistaken for a computer term.

> does seem to be some amount of information

How so? How would you define information and its communication?


Good example: The Information.

You're just describing information theory. Every message is contextualized within the codebooks used to encode/decode it. Sometimes we call that codebook "language", sometimes it uses another representation.

I'm curious why they labeled it "METACONTENT: Message Content". So it's content about the content's content?

I would say that data is "encoded information". But then again is there any other kind?

Makes sense, I thought it was something completely unrelated to information theory.

What is "information"? Is it a physical thing?

Okay, explain to me how data in isolation communicates meaning.

> Because it implies that receiving information affects the material world.

Information is physical, although I agree that the conversation isn't the important part, it's just a useful metaphor.


It seems that the term "information" is being used in two different ways in this thread. The usual meaning of a bit of information is with regard to a probability distribution over messages which the user wants to send to a server. I don't think most people are used to thinking about bits in other contexts, so that's where the miscommunication is happening.

Your interpretation, which I think is correct in this context, seems to be with regard to the entropy of a probability distribution over internet users, and the mutual information between that and the distribution over messages. The actual length of the message is irrelevant to the math once you fix the joint probability distribution.

The argument others seem to be making is that the joint probability distribution is in fact not fixed, and that you can smear out the conditional probability over users given a message by shrinking the space of possible messages. In theory that seems possible, but I don't know enough to have any idea how well that would work in practice. If you shrank the message space to be small enough to be useful for this purpose, wouldn't that get in the way of usability?

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