The CIA definitely was not behind Tiananmen square and there is no way it could be behind a two million person strong protest...
Conspiracy theory is one of the strongest forms of propaganda. Alex Jones is dumb but effective. It’s a slippery slope before you start blaming the Jews for everything.
The entire China narrative is a CIA psyop. Everywhere in the media you see China being portrayed as a massive threat, a looming threat to our national security. Every event in global politics involving China is twisted to fit this narrative by the media lapdogs of the CIA. Nothing could be further from the truth. China is extremely weak both geopolitically and in terms of leadership. It is the most geopolitically vulnerable country in the world besides Yemen et al. It has to import everything from food to intellectual goods. China poses precisely zero threat to us because China sucks.
The China balloon thing is a good example. It was an embarrassing mistake that was a result of disintegrating leadership structure in the cpp. It accomplished literally nothing and never could have. But these huge obvious questions were ignored by the media. Questions like “what did they stand to gain?” Nothing. “Was this deliberate?” Not on the part of ping. “What does this say about China?” That they are a joke of a country.
Look at mike baker on joe rogan. That’s how the CIA answered the rogan question, what are we going to do about this pesky guy who has a larger audience than cnn but isn’t a slimy media executive who would be receptive to our requests to shape the narrative around certain topics? They send in mike baker who handily fools rogan into thinking he’s just a good dude who used to be a spook. And they chit chat and once in a while, when the conversation turns to something geopolitical, mike sprinkles in some CIA narrative. Never believe anything a spook says.
The CIA and FBI are behind this thrust against disinformation. Where was this disinformation frenzy at when it comes to people believing in even more wild shit like the idea that the universe keeps track of your good and bad deeds and punishes you or rewards you accordingly? Or the belief that the position of the stars and planets determines what personality your baby will have or whether or not you’ll be given a promotion? If disinformation mattered as a principle then wouldn’t these things make liberals foam at the mouth too?
It’s so ironic that the liberal camp has become the exact opposite of what it used to be. It is the vassal of the CIA and FBI.
To give you some context, there is a massive government sponsored anti-China propaganda campaign going on in the US in order to give pretext to a Cold War style
ramping up of tensions, economic conflicts, military conflicts etc. because America sees China as an economic competitor now like it did the USSR. This article and the sentiments of so many in HN are simply the result of that campaign.
Edit: It’s not a conspiracy theory when almost every China bad news story can be sourced to organizations sponsored by the CIA.
The media are colluding to purposefully shift the mindset of American citizens toward believing that Chinese people deserve punishment?
This has the ring of a full-on conspiracy theory. Sorry, but I don't believe for a second that the media could effectively collude on anything of that nature. Certainly not to the point of effectively gradually shifting American sentiment.
Conspiracy theories are a dime a dozen these days. No one has time to read every book by every conspiracy theorist.
Someone I know who grew up in mainland China told me he was raised and taught in school to believe the Tianenmen square massacre was just U.S. fabricated propaganda.
What I've heard from PRC nationals in the US is that the CIA is behind the "riots". I'm assuming this is the narrative being pushed by the state-run media in the PRC.
You've bought into the propaganda. China orchestrated a massive disinformation campaign to deflect responsibility. They played the race card when flights to China were stopped. This all worked masterfully on left leaning people who know a lot less than they think.
Science is about discovering consensus? Wtf is this garbage.
I'm an avid China watcher, and the propaganda there started almost immediately, even before Wuhan was locked down. There were already stories being bandied about accusing the US Army of spreading a bioweapon in Wuhan etc etc.
What conspiracy theories are you referring to exactly? Because just based on facts (Their handling of Taiwan, their statements parroting CCP propaganda in January claiming the virus was not transmissible between humans, their condemnation of travel restrictions as xenophobic etc...) they are pretty clearly not on the side of facts or truth. Make of that what you will, but you can't deny the facts.
Maybe it's just the fact that this theory perfectly aligns with the current west-based propaganda effort that seeks to demonise China? Dismissing information as a conspiracy is a common strategy of autocratic states, as is seeding the internet with lies that align with their own interests.
This is simple conspiracy theory run amok about Russian fear mongering. There’s no proof about anything stated in the article, just some guy spreading rumors around.
China communist party has actual people spying on all levels of government, business, tech, academia, etc on a large scale. Documented cases of China communist spies caught red handed. Those are just outright criminal spying on US.
There are also mass disinformation and propaganda campaign run by China communist party state run media and tech companies. They run bot operations in all US social media. They run pro China communist party opeds in Establishment media.
Where are the non stop outrage about uighars, Hong Kong, Tibet, Tiananmen Square, Chinese slaves making Apple iPhones, China colonizing Africa? The active suppression campaign is on full force to suppress discussion of any negative stories on China behavior.
not a fan of China government but in this case I tend to believe them, I've seen Wikipedia volunteers spread actual disinformation in a concerted effort especially on politically charged topics.
Conspiracy theory is one of the strongest forms of propaganda. Alex Jones is dumb but effective. It’s a slippery slope before you start blaming the Jews for everything.
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