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It's relative, not absolute. Saying America today isn't richer than postwar America is even more absurd.


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It's very easy to argue that the United States is wealthier than it was in the past and wealthier than China is today, because these things are unambiguously true.

This argument is invalid because America is not a real 1st world country. It's only rich due to historical legacy of the dollar after WW2.

The US is still much wealthier than other industrial nations.

How does this contradict my point? The US has gotten richer, and it has also borrowed more. The two are not mutually exclusive.

American wealth and prosperity is higher than it's ever been.

If the vast majority of Americans are not benefiting from it, it's because of the concentration of wealth within US driven by domestic American policies, more than anything else.


The U.S. is far wealthier than any nation ever, including the U.S. of the 1930s and 40s (it's not even comparable). Whether or not it's funded has is not due to affordability.

I’ll contest that! By what metric do we have access to a vast quantity of high quality consumer goods? Medicine, housing, and food are some consumer goods that many Americans have trouble affording. Plus, the number of Americans with replicators is 0; we’re an extremely, extremely underdeveloped nation in that regard, and have lots of room to move up.

No, I wouldn’t rather live in China/russia/medieval Europe/on a desert island/whatever, to cut off any confusion there. I’m just saying “we’re rich comparatively” isn’t very useful in this case


Yes? The postwar economy of the 1950s was one of the most prosperous the US has ever seen.

This is simply false. US GDP per capita in the 50s was less than a third than what it is right now. Growth in the 50s was sluggish compared to the 60s, 80s or 90s. US is by any means more prosperous today than it was in the 50s, both on individual level and also as a whole.


The U.S. is not the richest country in the world, at least not anymore.

The US emerged as the wealthiest nation in Human history fro m WW2 (~50% of the worlds wealth), so this statement is somewhat surprising.

Yup. I don't think most people today realize what a one-time event American wealth was after world war 2.

After WW2, the rest of the developed world was destroyed and the under-developed world was colonies. Today, they all have woke citizens working hard to reach a developed lifestyle. Which means America has to compete, hard!


This is less impressive than it sounds. Real (inflation adjusted) US GDP is almost nine times higher than it was in 1945.

> Americans own around half of all global financial wealth.

Americans also had the privileged position of being located on a continent that has friendly neighbours, has extensive natural resources at its disposal, and half the continent did not get leveled during two world wars.

Not to mention, most of the financial wealth is bound up in dollars (mainly because of the aforementioned historical reasons), which in terms leads to it being stored in the US.


It is massively unfair to make comparisons to the 1950's. Basically, the USA was the only developed country with infrastructure that had not been bombed to rubble in WWII. In addition, China and India were undeveloped and just recovering from foreign occupation / colonialism. There was basically no competition for American manufacturing.

Also, if you look at inequality, you have to differentiate domestic vs global inequality. The domestic inequality is higher now, but global inequality was much higher in the 1950s.


Lol americans are much much richer compare to the rest of the world especially the first world. And debt is considered.

I'd wager they don't have any evidence that America is the richest nation in history.

The USA is crazy rich even compared to Europe or most western nations.

Hmm, US does not look or feel like the richest nation on earth. Is that just me?

I'm not wrong in fact.

"Some 39 percent of the world’s wealth belongs to Americans, while Western Europe accounts for another 31 percent."

And that was before the huge asset rebound in the US, and was a drop of 12% due to the great recession.

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/14/americas-domina...

Allianz's 2015 report indicates North America holds 45% of all global financial assets. Unless you're pretending that Canada and Mexico hold 20% of all global assets, your figures are wildly off the mark (Canada is less rich than the US per capita on average, and Mexico is far less so); at a minimum the US holds 40% to 42% of all global wealth.

https://www.allianz.com/v_1443702256000/media/economic_resea...

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