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>No one accidentally gets thrown in jail,

Just as no one accidentally falls on a crucifix in the shower.

https://worldnewsdailyreport.com/catholic-priest-hospitalize...



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> reduce my sentence or it dies with me

He would go to jail. This isn’t even a tough one.


> utterly farcical.

He's being tortured but at least he'll get a fair trial.


> That worked out pretty bad for him

I don't think so. He was incarcerated for unrelated reasons.


>No-one has been convicted of a crime or even fined.

thats not true, one person almost went to prison for tweeting bad joke about it https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/apr/20/man-admits-p... It doesnt matter what you do, its all about appearances.


> His punishment should be of the same order as someone who did those things.

Sure, it should be. I haven't done the research but 10 years is above and beyond what I'd expect, any comparable cases out there?


>He basically did what Weeve did, except Weeve is in confinement now.

Hopefully not for long... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6093468

Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with what he did, but the whole case is baffling to me.


> Whoever is responsible should spend 17 days in jail.

It still would not be the same. They would have to be pulled out of their lifes randomly without knowing why and how long it will take.

Maybe a factor could be applied to account for that uncertainty. n * 17 days in jail, where n will only be announced after the fact.


> he's not allowed to do anything about it, on pains of six months in prison.

He did indeed say (tweet) that [1] ...

> In every society, you need a balance of power.

Which in this case exists - there's a clear exception [2] that allows him to take action to prevent damage to his house.

See:

[1] https://twitter.com/mhudack/status/1650854942511448064

[2] https://twitter.com/TheAlanColeShow/status/16510204110253670...


> the next 15 years in jail

True or not with such crazy laws and sentences (250 years etc.) in the US I didn't even flinch at seeing that.


>But it doesn't change the fact that he deserves to be executed.

If this comment doesn't earn a ban, there's something wrong with this community. Unbelievable.


>I would imagine this is a life-in-prison sort of scenario;

You'd be surprised. He could be out in 10 years or so, even if convicted.


>EDIT: the flagged comment said a single death === beatings

"Banged up" can also mean put in jail (at least in British English)

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/banged_up#Adjective


> He's going to do something resembling the statutory max

I don't think you're right, but in any case, even if he receives the statutory max, it's unlikely he'll do it and stay in jail for 115 years.



> exploited a security problem that endangers the community

Well, it's not his fault the security problem endangers the community.

The US felony system is quite absurd. This guy is now marked for life for trespassing into a public space, based on the subjective opinion of a judge that despite him not harming anybody for 3 months, he is a danger to the community.


> adding "lol" or "jk" afterwards doesn't make it go away.

Make what go away? Even without those words there is clearly no threat. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs their head examined.

> I do think it was a joke from a dumb kid. I don't think he deserves jail time but I'm glad someone took it seriously enough to look into it.

So... you don't think he deserves this, but you are glad somebody is subjecting him to it? Come again?


> is why this guy [not the hacker] is getting 25 years.

No, he is not getting 25 years. He is being sentenced for a crime whose statutory maximum punishment is 25 years, for an offense which, under the circumstances put forward by the prosecutors, has a base guideline sentence of about 5 years (which is also what prosecutors have said they will seek in sentencing.)

The defense is likely to, in sentencing, challenge the prosecution position on damages, which may result in the guideline range being substantially lower. There is, basically, zero chance of a sentence anywhere close to 25 years here.


> He was then given a suspended sentence citing that he already has been through enough.

I wonder whether this is typical, or he was given special treatment.


> This guy is now marked for life [...] based on the subjective option of a judge

That is not quite what this is. He hasn’t been convicted of anything; the judge is determining the conditions on which he can be released before the trial happens and making that determination requires the judge to weigh the available evidence and apply a legal standard—albeit one where ‘danger’ doesn’t align with its everyday definition-to determine if some level of monetary bail is required.

I do agree that he may well be marked for life and in the sense that Google will remember this event forever, even if he is acquitted at trial.

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