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This assumes a rational population, which as we know, doesn’t exactly exist.


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And given there are like 50 a year in a population of 800k+, it’s pretty unlikely.

You’re ignoring the finite population and the actual numbers involved.

They still non-trivially define/demarcate what the population actually is. That is kind of a belief because it is a choice not given by nature, and there are infinitely many choices one could choose.

Maybe we just do not need that many people to exist in the first place

You're talking about a population.

I really question your fractional population 'genius' model.

1/2 the population is almost certainly closer than all of it.

Assuming human population is static, you are absolutely right.

If you read the article you'll see that they made that assumption because they wanted a conservative estimate of the population and that's the minimum possible number for a successful species.

Surely in that case the ideal number of humans is zero, because then there wouldn't be any human suffering. This is the logic of a mad artificial intelligence from a science fiction movie.

How about a human population?

Do some math. According to Wikipedia the population of the USA is 316,856,000. The 0.0001% of the population is 31685 after removing partial human beings caused by mathematical division. If the Forbes 400 list is used as a sample space for the rest of the 0.0001% then the numbers seem plausible. Note that I'm just playing "mathematician" and I haven't analyzed the 400 people in the list or did anything deeply scientific.

You're assume the 1.3 million inhabitants all live alone, which doesn't sound likely to me.

Isaac Arthur mentions this several times. But the counter argument is that with advanced civilisations having gigantic populations, it is hard to imagine that a “small” group counting in quadrillions wouldn’t prefer to live in the real world.

Not that I am a mathematician, but I am pretty sure that you can't actually calculate how many 40+ people there are just from these values since you can't assume the distribution is normal.

„We“ will most likely not include all eight billion of us in that scenario.

On a planet with 7 billion people? Probably not.

It makes perfect sense with less humans though. There wouldn't be anything wrong with settling on a billion people.

Since there's a finite (and countable) number of people alive, that statement is obviously hyperbole. But... why not?
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