They've done this before; the ATV1 didn't support 1080p, at a time when 1080p TVs were starting to exist in the semi-mainstream (though the vast majority of the market was 720p or 1080i still), but there was little content for them.
Ultimately, it'd presumably add cost for a feature useful to few people. Connectivity for 4k also remains a mess; there's HDMI 1.4 (24hz at 4k, so not good enough; the interface presumably runs at 60fps like all other Apple interfaces), and HDMI 2.0, which does support 60hz at 4k, but which is somewhat rare, and has its own problems: http://www.avsforum.com/forum/168-hdmi-q-one-connector-world...
I expect in a couple of years when 4k TVs are more common, content exists for them in significant amounts, and the connector standard (possibly HDMI 2.0a?) is sorted out, they'll support it.
Likely HDMI 1.4, 24fps @ 4k, 30fps @ UHD. Interestingly the new Apple TVs hardware is capable of 4k even though it does not currently "support it" (HDMI 1.4, and A8 with can play 4k)
Wow, thanks for pointing that out - didn't realize I'd had these ATV 4Ks since 2017. They feel a bit sluggish.. probably just that everything else got faster.
The ATV 4K I'm talking about is one generation behind the current one and was first released in 2017. They sold it until May of this year and it still gets updates. It always "supported" YouTube but not in 4K until tvOS 14 which released LAST YEAR. The hardware could always do YouTube in 4K and weaker devices like the 4K FireTVs could do it too.
Especially since it's not that expensive a feature anymore. There's actually a $15 Pi-like ARM board called the Orange Pi PC that does 4k, because apparently ARM media SoCs with 4k support are that cheap that you can put one in a bargain-basement board that's not even aimed at media applications. Admittedly it's restricted to 30 FPS at 4k, but still, I'm sure Apple could do better if they wanted to.
You know I asked around recently and it seems to be that all three are now optional. Perhaps Apple has pushed for this, because I recall 4K and 64K support being a hard requirement.
I'm very excited about these upgrades too (especially GigE), but as far as I can tell nothing on this news page specifies whether the Pi will also support HDR output as part of the 4K upgrade. That's most of the practical benefit of 4K - that 4K releases tend to come with HDR10 or DolbyVision support.
Anyone know if we can expect HDR output to work? If I knew it supported that I'd be purchasing one right now to upgrade my media center from my current Pi 3 setup.
Even the tech specs page says nothing about 10bit decoding, which is required for most real world 4K HEVC video.
You are 100% correct and my original data is wrong. (imore.com)
Apple’s website lists the external drive requirement for 4k60FPS:
4K at 60 frames per second (fps), iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max only, when using an external storage device that supports speeds of at least 220MB per second and maximum power draw of 4.5W
Unfortunately there is no way to edit my above comment, so my apologies for being the source of incorrect information here.
Apple has always been on the forefront of technology, with things like Retina displays, long before other vendors. I think they should've been there with 4K too.
Anyone know if the cheap model can handle 4k60 444 10bit over HDMI? "4k 60hz" is almost meaningless without more information. There are some reddit threads where people have issues with 4k60 444 10b on the (now) previous gen mac mini.
If they've fixed that, I would consider using this as an HTPC (as Otpimus and Movist are the only desktop video players I've found that seem to actually fully support HDR, my windows box isn't cutting it).
So how far away is it until my phone can record 4K @ 60fps like it can with HEVC? I'm guessing we'll need hardware support built on these optimizations?
From the old spec page [0]:
And the new spec page [1]: [0] https://support.apple.com/kb/SP769?viewlocale=en_US&locale=e...[1] https://www.apple.com/apple-tv-4k/specs/
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