"the little card that I got with my vaccination is not meaningful proof."
It's more meaningful than using the honor system.
And it's not your "medical file" a lot more than your driver's license is. It tells one significant detail about your medical history, and that is it.
I prefer bars where I know I am safe, and one where there are people like yourself who claim to be vaccinated but resist showing proof, don't make me feel safe.
> Also, in many cases, "proof of vaccination" includes a cell phone photo of the piece of paper they handed out when you got a vaccine, so as it stands, lying is pretty easy.
One critical difference is that there will be legal consequences if you're using a fake proof of vaccination.
>The moment hospitals made being vaccinated a requirement for receiving care (which is horrific and would never happen), every single unvaccinated COVID patient would simply lie and say they were vaccinated.
How would this work if by getting vaccinated you get a record of the vaccination? The card everybody receives isn't the only record of vaccination. There's some database (or multiple). Hence why in California specifically you can look up your name and cross-reference it with where you received the vaccination and it'll show you your digital record along with a QR code that links to it.
> It's more meaningful than using the honor system.
It is the honor system. Anyone who wants a blank CDC vaccination card doesn't have to look far to find one. Requiring them as proof for anything is just a bureaucratic checkbox.
> You can visit a physical store what paper you are supposed to show sorry?
Technically, it's not a paper, but still in many European countries it's not possible to enter many physical stores without a proof of vaccinations. I guess that's what parent's comment is about.
"...as a consequence of the pandemic, tons of organizations will rely on proof that you’re vaccinated to grant you access. This includes flights, cruises, sporting events and other scenarios where strangers congregate. None of these organizations (or the vaccine passports hoping to serve them) are care providers, so even in states where they operate, they wouldn’t by default be able to access the state IIS [state immunization registries]."
IMHO not sharing my medical records with private companies is a good thing.
Firstly, there no way to check someone’s vaccination status. There are fake cards, there are people who got vaccinated before government databases, there are people who got vaccinated without documentation, there are people who got documentation from medical people who didn’t actually perform the vaccination.
Secondly, it is massively against a breach of ethics to intentionally withhold care from people because of a moral judgement. Medicine knows where that goes and is strongly incentivized to never go there again.
> with a snarky timing that will prevent some people from getting all their shots before restrictions pop in.
It's not mandatory, unless you consider restaurants and travel to be necessities one needs ( and you can still use a test in lieu of a vaccine certificate, and tests are still free)
> In 2019 or earlier, when have you had to show an ID and proof of vaccination to enter any building other than your own house?
I live in upstate New York - one of the more aggressive states for COVID measures - and have not yet had to do this, a year and a half into the pandemic.
My bad. You are right. To me "status" referred to the health status, but it is about attendance to the event : A vaccinated person might choose to not participate.
Previous paragraph : "From that link, they can confirm their attendance, but only if they have a valid health pass."
> if only we could make this happen here in the US!
Hmm, isn't it already required in US? When I sent my son to first grade this year they asked us to verify that we have all the necessary vaccines, without it they would not allow us to register.
Not unless someone looks up your status without your consent, I would think.
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