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"We have done substantial testing."

So go get vaccinated! If you trust the vaccine that it works, and that it's safe, go get it. I certainly have urged people I know who are high-at-risk and don't share my ethical concerns about them to get the vaccine.

If they're safe and effective, get vaccinated!

If they're safe and not effective, or lossy effective, we have very big problems and vaccinating the hold outs will not change anything



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> i don't need it

Yes. You do. Even if you're asymptomatic, the virus will still mutate with a small chance of becoming another variant, and if you're unvaccinated in such a case, that means you'll spread it to others.

By not being vaccinated, you run the risk of spreading a variant around that is a "breakthrough variant" - a mutation of the disease that is hardened against a particular vaccine brand.

Thus, you will be contributing to healthy people getting sick despite being properly vaccinated.


> So healthy people should partake in the vaccination as for them, the risk-reward ratio is definitely worth it.

How can you make this decision for someone else?


I think you should get vaccinated and then trust that vaccine works (if you’re worried about the virus).

I'm pro vax. I think this vaccine is worth the risk but this is the highest risk vaccine we've had in a long time and that part of the equation is getting swept under the rug.

Yeah, agreed.

My selfish concern is then whether or not the vaccine will work for them.


“In addition, we recommend that relatives of persons at particularly higher risk accept the offer of vaccination to protect their relatives who are at particularly higher risk.” I think in this case you can get the vaccine

I'm in an elevated risk group, and I'd like the right to decide for myself if taking the vaccine is worth the risk.

What you can do is expect to be in an environment where everyone is vaccinated to give you the best possible safety.

Of course there is always a risk, virtually nothing in this world is a guarantee, that doesn't mean all risks are equal. The vaccine works, but it isn't 100%. Acting like that means we shouldn't bother is weird.


You’re worried about vaccinated people being in danger of the thing they’re vaccinated against. Either they work or they don’t.

I'm definitely getting the Vaccine, just saying, it's not easy to just blindly trust anyone.

Honestly I don't trust the vaccine, but I got it anyway because I see the virus as a bigger danger to me

> it is recommended not to vaccinate within 6 months of infection.

24/7 ads and encouragement for people to get the vaccine, almost to the point that it's a moral virtue means that tons of people are getting the vaccine, even having recently caught covid-19.


That's really great to hear. Someone I know who works in as a volunteer in the vaccination centre said the same kind of thing as that too.

As someone who doesn't want to take the vaccine: I would prefer this. Let us make the decision and deal with the consequences.

Not the GP, but I have a question for you: if the vaccine works, why would I be putting others in danger by not getting it? Can't they get vaccinated instead?

If they can't, doesn't that just mean the vaccine is defective? As far as I know, vaccines are meant for those who are weaker, so if they can't get it, it seems to me that the vaccine is defective.

Also, the CDC has admitted that the asymptomatic transmission rate is far less than previously thought. (https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7004e3.htm?s_cid=mm...)

With all of that put together, it seems to me that if I am healthy, it would be better for me to save the vaccines for those who want them and need them and let my immune system build my immunity.


It’s safe. Tens of millions are vaccinated. As a health care professional, I can say with full confidence that you and your family, and our society are better off protected.

Of course they do. So advise the 1% that's at risk to quarantine until we get a vaccine.

Aren't they starting by giving the vaccines to the most vulnerable first though? For them, the risk is worth it. And those further down the list will get to wait and figure out the risks with the vaccine, if there are any.

Anyone who got tested positive should have been given the same status as someone who got the vaccine.

You shouldn't refuse that just because you are worried people might try to get sick.

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