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If you had put money in VTSAX on 1/26/2017 and reinvested dividends, you would be up 101.91% with an annualized return of 15%


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Not sure about VTI, but if you invested in the S&P 500 and reinvested dividends, you would have got 130%:

https://dqydj.com/sp-500-return-calculator/


And if you bought it a few days later (on June 13, 2022) you would be up 20.5% today even without dividend reinvestment. Trying to derive meaning from stock returns over such short periods is meaningless due to the inherent volatility of the market.

I have been dollar cost averaging straight into VTSAX for the past couple of years and have seen something like a 40% annualized return lol. That probably won't continue, but what a ride.

90% VTI 10% BND. So far, 6.3% return this year (based on arbitrary pay ins, no market timing used)

But the behaviour of investing in VTSAX would also have left them with losses after one year. It was higher this time last year.

For anyone wondering like I did, that would be 7.75% annual return, compounded once a year.

If you had reinvested your dividends, you'd have gotten your money back by the end of the war (and you'd only have lost 1 or 2% approximately six years later).

35 years later you would have an annual return (inflation adjusted) of 6% (6.5 times as much as you put in).

And this is somebody who invested in the absolute peak of the market in 1929, and then saw the worst crash in history, followed by the worst war in history.


If you had instead invested that money in a ETF that follows the S&P 500, you could have $2.109 in profits today. (Assuming $190 initial investment and S&P growth of 1.11% since May 20th)

See link to a chart on returns by year/fund from the article: https://twitter.com/vcstarterkit/status/1173611439833006080

VSTAX's 10 year return since 2010 was 11.29% annually (191% total return). That means Universa could've lost around 23% every year until 2020, gain 4144% in 6 months and still beat the index (according to my naive arithmetic at least). (0.77^10) * 4244% = 311% -> 211% total return

Just a reminder, it's most likely 6% annualized return for the second 6 months.

Roughly 27 years with dividend reinvestment (yes, really).

And what does it look like as total returns or Dividends reinvested?

Total return (dividends reinvested, inflation adjusted) is -13.4% for 1965-1983.

Curious then if you are simply not investing it at all?

Average returns over 10 years for something like VTSAX (total stock market index) is 13%, granted the last 10 years has been a bull market. 13% of $4M is $520k even half that is $260k before taxes which I think is comfortable to live on, exception of HCOL areas.


Right, I didn't notice the end date, sorry. So that was ~5.7% return for ~15 months (not 26) and the remaining ~28.7% was in the last 11 months.

If it is a liquid asset, you should count unrealized gains as income. If you invested $100k in VOO last year, and it is worth $120k today, then you have definitely made $20k in the last year. That's $20k that you can choose withdraw and spend, at any time. Just because you choose to reinvest the $20k (ie, by letting it ride) doesn't change the fact that you've made $20k. It's really the same as collecting $20k in dividends and then enrolling in the dividend-reinvestment program.

I think you're looking only at price and not total return. Because of dividends, assuming reinvestment, it would have been sooner.

If you had invested a year ago, you would have lost 70% of the money you invested. Consider yourself lucky that you didn't.
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