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"Affordable housing" always means "affordable high value housing for well adjusted middle class families" in politico.

Sure, the poor elderly, the homeless, and those with mental health and addiction challenges need a place to stay too, but it can't be here. We don't have people like that around these parts.



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Yes.

The term “Affordable housing” is used in such different contexts, that it holds little meaning.

But I just want us to be building condos and simple homes geared that middle income families can afford at 30% of their annual income.


Your and my definitions of affordable housing are way different. Housing here is anything but affordable.

> The phrase "affordable housing" has come to mean "cheap housing for poor people."

More specifically, it's come to mean "subsidized housing for poor people". It's often contrasted with "luxury housing", which is implicitly anything new-built and market-rate.


That's a pithy, contrarian slogan, not a statement of fact. "Affordable Housing" is a term of art with a specific definition, and yes, it really exists, all over these United States.

Also, if you want to use it colloquially, then housing is, by definition, affordable for most of the people who live in housing and are not running a spending deficit.


That's right. "Affordable" by itself doesn't say anything about who can afford it. If we were talking about affordable for the middle class, we'd call it "Affordable for the middle class." This is why the term is a misnomer. All housing is affordable, but the term is being used to describe something other than affordability (subsidization).

There's plenty of affordable housing around, it's just not in places people want to live. Some markets require you to shell out 50% of your income on housing, but it's not like people have no choice. They do it because overall it's worth it to them. If they didn't, there wouldn't be enough takers.

Affordable housing for families isn't really a thing these days. Even the public housing explicitly marked for the purpose is mostly booked-up by now.

Have you seen the neighborhoods and people that live in "affordable" housing? No you wouldn't want to live there.

One thing I don’t understand about the housing debate is why any specific area needs to be “affordable”

If I can’t afford to live in an area, it seems to me the solution is to live somewhere else.

Maybe I’m missing something. I’m open to new ideas here but I really don’t get it.


> The phrase "affordable housing" has come to mean "cheap housing for poor people."

I like to call it what it really is: "lottery housing." It is only affordable to the lucky few who win the jackpot.


Plenty of affordable housing in depressed areas (Appalachia). The problem is the lack of jobs, or safety, or some other thing people want.

People don't want affordable housing. They want affordable housing in the existing cities where they (and everyone else) want to be.


Affordable housing is a blight on any neighborhood. The people that qualify are often damaged or traumatized from a life of poverty. If you have too many in any given spot it’s just a place where gangs violence and drugs will congregate. Like any undesirable nuisance most places can accommodate a few but 50% is way too much.

Obviously, there's affordable housing because plenty of people manage to live there.

All housing is affordable, otherwise it would never be bought or sold.

"Affordable" in this context is a misnomer that just means "subsidized."


> What is “affordable housing”?

It's one of two things:

1. A polite way to say "housing project" or "subsidized housing" to not scare people.

2. A buzzword to force more housing density and/or promote social engineering agendas. When used in this sense, it isn't actually linked to affordability.


"Affordable" can mean a lot of things. Usually the official definition is housing that costs less than 30% of the income of someone at some multiple of the local poverty income level. Housing can meet that bar in a number of ways: rising incomes, smaller/less equipped units, no parking, public subsidy for rent, public subsidy for land or development fees, etc. Due to the terrible experience with public housing across the USA in the 1950s-1980s, most governments avoid owning the units if they can avoid it.

I know it's hard to believe that many people just want affordable housing

On the subject of affordable housing, not to be argumentative, what is it? Why is that term used? If there was sufficient housing, it would be affordable. Seems to me affordable housing means crap housing, thereby cheap in the current environment where there is insufficient housing. Therefore people should stop talking about affordable housing, and start talking about more housing.

Affordable housing is a misleading term used for a few different situations: unless the problem is well defined, there is no proper solution.

if affordable means anyone should own a house, no matter the income or lack of - that is utopia. If affordable means cheap enough that lower third income bracket can still afford a house, there are solutions - high density blocks of flats like we have all over in Europe. But if you want cheap houses in the middle of an upscale neighborhood, that is nonsense.

The size of the house is an inverse of the income even in Europe: people who can afford live in single homes or lower density constructions, the people that cannot afford that live in high density places, but you cannot build a couple of towers in the middle of a low density neighborhood, it was tried in UK and failed miserably for everyone.

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