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In that case are downvotes censorship too?


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Are you conflating downvotes and censorship?

Downvotes aren't 'censorship'.

> Downvotes don't mean censorship.

Good question. I think it does if downvotes result in inability to express an opinion (as opposed to simply having downvotes shown).

If downvotes are used to suppress freedoms then downvoting is a means of censorship. In other words, there is no big difference between prohibiting something by one person (dictatorship) or by 10 persons (collective dictatorship) (if it is not prohibited by law of course).


Downvotes are not censorship.

Downvoting is downvoting, it's not censorship.

it's not the same as censoring. its ranking. a downvote is an intent to rank some content lower than other competing content.

Down-voting can be used as censorship, if not used properly. As in downvoting because you don't agree with the opinion, rather than because the post is irrelevant, ad-hominem, or content-free. If you don't agree, post a rebuttal.

Here, downvoting is a means of censorship. It's not about the points but rather about being seen even when disagreed with.

This site has a downvote button and an upvote button. The fact that people use that feature of the site (downvote), means the site is working as intended. It is not censorship.

Downvoting is also an expression of freedom speech. It's quite different from censorship.

In and of themselves, no. However, I think an argument could be made for the visual suppression of posts, which occurs after too many downvotes have been given, being a form of soft censorship. The information is still broadcast but it's made impossible to read unless I copy/paste it or tilt my screen to an extreme angle.

Well, the article is linked a few threads below, you can be the judge yourself. The whole concept of up/downvoting is based on having some kind of an opinion on a topic, which doesn't necessarily equate to hard censorship.

By the way, downvoting can be abused for censorship here. I think only upvoting has right to exist.

Downvoting falls under soft censorship. The term is loaded and has many contexts. Wiki has a good article, it's worth a read.

And to those downvoting this discussion, thank you for proving my point.


There is a huge difference between being downvoted and not being able to express your opinion because of censorship

IMO you should be able to express any opinion, and of course you'll be downvoted if you are a bigot or a religious nutcase

Right now Reddit is going full censorship, which I hate


    Downvoting isn't equal to censorship
Downvoting obscures the post being downvoted, so it kind of is.

Downvotes should not be tools of censorship.

Indeed. Downvoting simply shouldn't exist. It lets users feel like "mini-censors" and it turns out people really like censoring views they don't agree with or that make them uncomfortable.

It's not just downvoting, though. Reddit also lets the moderators act like real censors and they are completely unaccountable. There is no way to visit a subreddit and know whether the discussion there is censored or not. So you have to assume it is.


The downvotes on our site serve totally different purpose. They do not censor - they cluster. They let you find people that share your values. Same with upvotes, also there's no karma to gain or lose.
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