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Also, have you seen high-end laptop prices? Dell XPS is easily 3k+$.


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Laptops do not have absurd cost now. There are good options from 300$ upto 2000$+

Wow, $2000! That's quite expensive for what it is. I didn't realize Dell costs so much over there.

A similarly speced XPS 2-in-1 costs 1,120$ and that is already and expensive laptop, so yeah that's pretty pricey.

Prices for laptops and desktops are way down. Best Buy is selling a core i5, 256 SSD, 8 GB ram Dell laptop for $399 as of this writing. That's plenty of power for most used.

Where prices continue to be high is for business laptops, where people will pay a lot more money for a little bit more performance (and better build quality, lighter weight).

I remember a time when a half decent laptop was $1500.


The funny thing is that this would be the least expensive laptop I've ever bought to date. My first laptop cost $5000, as did the following 3. My very powerful dell was around $3000.

What draws the high end to a surfacebook or an XPS instead of saving $1000 per laptop and going with the similar-specced Lenovo T543?

I picked up my Dell XPS M1330 on sale for $500 (with 3gb of RAM, nVidia video card, etc). Definitely can't complain.

I think you can get the Dell XPS 13 , 32GB RAM, 11th gen i7 for about $2100 or sometimes less, but yeah. Definitely not seen these specs for $700.

Well... the cheapest notebook from Dell is actually much closer to $400. It has exactly 512MB of RAM. And it does not run Windows, it runs Ubuntu. They better care about that.

When I was shopping for laptops I found several Dell models with Ubuntu, all of them were 100 USD more expensive than with Windows.

I don't really understand what point you are making. Do you think that $1k is too high to be the "high end laptop market"?

Compared to what?

$2-3k for a dev laptop since forever, innit?


The cheapest Dell with Windows 7 is 300 dollars. Everything other than Windows 7 is a ripoff.

Hell, even if it wasn't, $1,000 is mid-range in the laptop world (e.g. a bottom end Dell XPS 13 or Envy clocks in around that price point), and anything below that starts to get pretty hit-and-miss.

Pricey? Maybe in comparison to a budget laptop but as you're comparing it to a Macbook, it's not even close to the price of a similar configuration there. My local Costco has Dell XPS 13s and Lenovo X1s for ~$1400.

I can't see myself spending this much for a laptop but I guess there is a market for it.

Between $500 and $3000 perhaps, like most laptops.

I usually tell family members that if they’re dead set on buying a new laptop (as opposed to used), then don’t buy anything under $1000 since it’s going to be a piece of shit.

The only exception to that rule is Dell. Don’t buy Dell at all, since it’s always going to be a piece of shit.


The equivalent Dell Precision laptop is about the same price. A laptop lasts for several years so thats only a few hundred euros per year.
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