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Something is probably whooshing over my head here.

The fallacy fallacy is when you argue a conclusion must be false because of a fallacy in how it was reached.



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It's a similar idea to the argument from fallacy, wherein a conclusion is believed to be false because its argument contains a fallacy.

Classic fallacy fallacy. The fallacy fallacy is a fallacy that asserts that because an argument is fallacious, the conclusion of the argument is false.

What's the fallacy?

Ironically, I think you may have fallen victim to a kind of fallacy fallacy fallacy, because the fallacy fallacy concerns the interpretation of an argument assuming a valid fallacy in it does exist. At least according to Wikipedia's definition of fallacy fallacy.

Rather, in this case the parent post merely misidentified a fallacy.


If a fallacy is wrong, wouldn't a fallacy fallacy be right

You are correct. It's not because you use a fallacy in your discourse that you are wrong.

"The fallacy fallacy: You presumed that because a claim has been poorly argued, or a fallacy has been made, that the claim itself must be wrong."


It's also called the fallacy fallacy for a reason.

Which fallacy? I don't understand.

People really ought to learn that pointing out a fallacy doesn't suddenly make it false. I mean I could point out that that is known as the fallacy fallacy, but then I'd be doing the same thing myself.

Really a fallacy represents a particular weak argument. The way to defeat them is not to name the correct fallacy but to point out the weakness.

If that doesn't work then you likely have the wrong fallacy, or the argument isn't fallacious to begin with.


What fallacy?

It's a fallacy to assume that just because a claim was argued in a fallacious manner, that it's also incorrect. (Which is close to what you said.)

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/the-fallacy-fallacy

Pointing out a fallacy by name is usually silly, but knowing how people twist debates and being able to defend against that is not.


I don't think that's a fallacy fallacy. Fallacy fallacy is when there really is a fallacy in a person's argument, and that fact is used to reason that the argument's conclusion is false.

Which fallacy?

Which fallacy?

Well, the claim that the opponent must be wrong, because he has committed a fallacy, is the fallacy fallacy...

Fallacy fallacy :)

Compare also with Fallacy Fallacy - just because the argument is fallacious, doesn't mean the overall point is wrong.

Argument from fallacy.

Fallacy fallacy?
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