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I thought the rule of HN was to avoid comments like the above, that are baseless and devoid of content, derived purely from subjetive feelings about other people's opinions.


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I read the article, I thought it was a point worth addressing in more depth and HN has a rule specifically against this type of comment.

Your well reasoned and nuanced comment has no place on HN. :-)

It's a concise reduction to the absurd that doesn't leave room for conversation. It's a flat statement of "your wrong" that adds nothing to the conversation, with the subtext of "I'm too lazy to actually put together an argument with a claim and a few premises and a bit of explanation to flesh things out".

It's the opposite of constructive. It's combative and inflammatory. HN, unlike many other venues for discussion, is a halfway decent community precisely because such comments are in the minority and tend to be quickly downvoted.


Could you give some justification for that criticism and assertion please? (On its own, your comment falls short of HN standards.)

Concur. It was a specific criticism of the comment, not a general criticism of HN.

No, its just that kind of comment doesn't really belong on HN.

The dismissive, know-it-all, didnt-read-but-holds-opinion attitude is the norm on HN, it is best to simply ignore such comments.

>In general HN commentators seems to be relatively emotionless and focus mostly on facts

This is a myth. Commenters on HN are good at disguising emotional arguments as reasoned arguments. That's not to say that people don't apply logic here--they certainly do--but don't be fooled into thinking that HN comments are relatively emotionless.


I don't like this.

While I understand the purpose of HN is to have meaningful and in-depth discussion, and simply stating an opinion doesn't really contribute much, this is something which is so obviously bad and gives such a visceral reaction that the negative opinion outshines anything else I could say about it.

I don't like this.


Your comment is the opposite of what HN is supposed to be. You've taken up a stance, please explain your reasoning instead of stating it as fact.

Lots of reasonable points could be made to counter that opinion.


I don't know, it seems pretty common for people to be straight up on HN. I didn't get a sense of superiority or insult from the comment - just statements that the author believes to be true.

This is exactly the kind of comment and discourse that is not HN worthy. You might want to do some introspecting

> you should feel ashamed for it. If anything you should feel shame

Trying to guilt-trip or shame people on HN for their views is absolutely against the HN guidelines[1] - "Be kind. Don't be snarky. Have curious conversation" "Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive" "When disagreeing, please reply to the argument" and so on.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


Hmm. Maybe comments like this are why the author doesn't like HN.

What that comment said is true though. Does HN not value the truth?

Agreed. I don't see why that comment, in particular, got killed. I think some groupthink was at work, in that case. This is an unfortunate trend on HN.

How exactly? Care to explain how my comment violates the HN guidelines?

I have no idea why these two users are taking such an uncharitable view of what you wrote. It's sad and offensive.

HN, by the mere fact that it is a discussion community, is about sharing perspectives and opinions. No one here is forced to read or believe anything anyone else says.

I appreciated your comments and would hate to see you go.


Your comment seems to be against multiple HN guidelines, particularly those regarding assuming good faith, not post shallow and dismissive comments, and the rule regarding ideological wars.
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