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I just re-read by October PGE bill. My NEM distribution charges at peak were $.61/kWh.

My peak generation charges were a further $.31/kWh.

I don’t pay the NEM number until end of year, but I just paid it and it was another $500 of accumulated NEM charges.



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Peak charges here (generation + delivery) are $0.56/kWh. That's insane. When I put in the solar array this number was $0.16. And I was told my rate was grandfathered in.

Much closer to $0.25 in San Francisco.. From my bill last month:

Generation charges: $22.33

Peak Usage: 62kWh @ $0.29672

Off-Peak Usage: 258kWh @ $0.28243

Baseline Credit: 246kWh @ -0.0832

Total usage: 320kWh @ $0.2160/kWh


Natural gas is ~$0.08/kwh & electricity $0.52/kwh for me on PGE

Hottest month for me was aug, I paid around 161

~$135 1190kWh (charged at ~$0.114 / kWh) ~$10.50 tax

~15.50 other fees/riders which can not be recouped with panels

OP is somehow paying ~25c/kWh, though I have to believe they are counting the connections fees etc in their estimate, based on natl averages they would be an outlier for most states. https://www.eia.gov/electricity/state/


My power is resold by the city so they don’t break it out, but a nearby county is 4.55c per kWh distribution charge and 5.96c per kWh generation charge.

If you ask PGE for 350kw, you'll see quickly how much more they'll charge you in demand charges :)

Oof, that's awful. I just got a bill recently here in seattle and got a $10.67 base charge and an additional $0.0902 charge per KWH for a total price of $48.50 dollars for 415 KWHs used in a 68 day period.

I get the number from my October'23 PG&E bill in front of me.

I'm on the EV2A plan. The numbers on that website link are not what they charge on the actual bill. I don't know why they are allowed to publish fake numbers.

Here are the exact numbers from my October bill:

Peak rate: 58.4 delivery + 14.8 generation = 73.2 c/kWh

Part peak: 47.4 delivery + 8.3 generation = 55.7 c/kWh

Off-peak: 27.2 delivery + 7.1 generation = 34.4 c/kWh


I find my (NorCal) PG&E bill extremely (and deliberately?) inscrutable, but for the most recent statement, the Off-peak net price was $0.427/kWh and $0.466/kWh on-peak.

The rate schedules are complex. I'm paying ~$0.43/kWh, itemized as $0.13/kWh generation (Clean Power SF) and $0.30/kWh distribution (PG&E).

If you use very little on the residential schedule I think it can drop pretty low, probably around $0.15/kWh.


Wholesale LMPs are often more like $80/MWh at peak and -$60/MWh at nega-peak, but that still works out to 14¢/kWh, which is about the same difference you're calculating with.

My most recent monthly bill was $0.046/kWh.

In PG&E territory-

Summer peak: $0.61806

Summer off-peak: $0.53462

Winter peak: $0.51536

Winter off-peak: $0.48701

https://www.pge.com/tariffs/assets/pdf/tariffbook/ELEC_SCHED...


Yeah we're getting shafted. Starts at $0.487 and goes up to $0.618 per KWh.

https://www.pge.com/tariffs/assets/pdf/tariffbook/ELEC_SCHED...


I wonder how this feeds into energy pricing.

PG&E rates are based on some fictitious "average" household, which uses electricity and gas.

Then you pay more if you use more than this household did. ($0.22/$0.27/$0.48 per kwh, and $1.28/$1.88 per therm gas)

The thing is, if your household only has electricity for heating which is not as cost effective as gas, you may end up in the $0.48/kwh tier for electicity.


Sorry, it is 2-month billing cycle. We have around 30 cents per kwh I think.

For the last 3 months my total (connection charge, per kWh, taxes) was:

- April: $70 for 635 kWh. USD$0.110/kWh

- March: $71 for 570 kWh. USD$0.124/kWh

- February: $79 for 650 kWh. USD$0.121/kWh


And around 16x for the lowest rate payers I know of (11-13 cents/kwh variable off peak/peak) who don’t have solar. Even better for those who do have solar.

I'm on SCE in California and I pay about $0.73 per day in "Basic Charges" (about $23/mo) if I use zero power. There are also grid-related charges (including a wildfire fund charge) that are usage-based on the order of $0.03/kWh. For my usage (about 1MWh per month) that means half the grid charges are flat and half are from usage.

For comparison, my TOU energy rates range from $0.06 to $0.25 per kWh depending on the season and time of day.

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