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Its both:

Leave Country A for Country B = expat

Move to Country B from Country A = immigrant

The words mean exactly the same. It's just which perspective you want to highlight. Whether you left a place or moved to a place.



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I could be wrong but should verb be emigrate here? I.e. you are leaving your home country.

I think it is one thing to do it when leaving a country, and another to relocate within the country to a more favorable state.

There's no contradiction with the parent though. You want to immigrate because your new country is nicer and you want to stay. You're an expat because your old country is nicer and you want to go back.

That last part is a really good example to use for people who have switched countries.

If a defining quality of your migration is moving away from your country, then you're an expat, or refugee in case of duress. Someone bored with the US moving to SE Asia is an expat. It's likely that they'll go elsewhere afterwards or come back.

When a defining quality of your migration is moving to a country, you're an immigrant. Someone who wants to live in the EU is an immigrant. It's likely that they will stay there indefinitely.

While people from the west are usually wealthier, many expats move specifically to escape the high cost of living.


Oh I missed the part where it said what country he (she?) was leaving, or where he might want to go. Do you feel the same way about people leaving any country, wherever they might be?

There are a lot of reasons that people move to different countries, aside from feelings about the government they're moving away from.

Which means to continue in their home country or a neighboring one (which is a great advice that I follow)

This problem is just a specific instance of the more general “expat problem”. When you move countries, you have to deal with the new country’s rules. Many people who move countries run into unexpected differences. You have to roll with it and deal.

“I should move back to South Africa, but I want to move to Europe.”

No, doesn’t sound quite right…

“I should move to Europe, but I want to move back to South Africa.”

There it is


If that's your take, I understand your confusion.

Are you supposed to leave your country when you're not happy, or should you vote and try to change it?

Sometimes it's better to leave, sometimes it's better to stay.


I consider myself an expat at the moment because while I have no plans to move back to the US, I also don't plan on renouncing my citizenship. But I use that definition for people from other countries as well - I know people from Australia, the UK, Germany, India, Japan, etc. who I consider to be expats. If you're willing to give up your citizenship, then you're an emigrant in my eyes.

But I'm also getting much closer to being willing to give up my US citizenship... The only benefit is that I can decide to go back to the US if necessary, and given the political crap there, that's an increasingly depressing thought.


Yeah, but choosing to move to another country just isn't the same as the country changing under your feet against your will.

I usually cover all bases by claiming I'm emigrating and leaving the country - only way to be sure :)

I think he is an expat, because he is writing from the perspective of the west. Also an expat left because he/she wanted to, not forced to.

So many people are saying they moved to a new country (or countries). Is there a trick I don't know of that you can just up and move? Or are the majority here rich or specialize in something in particular? I am assuming that people work when they get to the new country, which means a visa.

I could understand if it was to a country on the same continent but there are a lot of US > UK; UK > US. From what I've read it isn't as easy as saying: "Well, guess I'll go live there now."


It's called the expat paradox.

Moving to another country.

Moving to a different country
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