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Reading intel ark, it seem to me that the AX210 is a fully fledged device that can be used with every SoC [0] while the AX201 relies on CNVi [1].

So both can be true at the same time: your AX210 works fine with the i7-2600, while the AX201 would not.

Thanks for those product names Intel. Very helpful!

0: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/204836/... 1: https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/130293/...



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We've used the Intel AX210 on everything except the original 11th Gen pre-built systems which use AX201 and the Chromebook Edition, which uses AX211.

AX210 on Ryzen is a YMMV situation. Neither Intel nor AMD will provide any guidance or support around the combination, and we don't have access to any of the needed source to resolve issues as they come up.


The Killer AX1650 is an Intel chip and without the Killer software is the same as an Intel AX200. You just need a version of the Linux kernel that recognizes the AX1650 as an AX200, 5.2.2 or later.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/14194/the-killer-ax1650-a-wif...

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=247705&p=2


I think it means "Don't use an Intel AX201 Wifi Card because that needs an Intel CPU" without mentioning Intel.

It sure looks to me like "Some guy" got the "random speculation" right in this case.

The link shows the BE200 as the "M.2: PCIe*, USB" type in the highlighted Intel Ark screenshot. In contrast to the "WinModem" version you're conflating this with, which should say "M.2: CNVio2" (or similar) like the AX210 and AX211 pair.

BE200: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/230078/...

AX210: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/204836/...

AX211: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/204837/...

The BE200 should be like the AX210. The "WinModem" variant should be BE201 like the AX211.

Edit: I guess I should say that I don't know if "may be locked via Firmware" is a reasonable conclusion, just that the correlation is present, and the assumption of interface compatibility (given an M.2 slot with PCIe and USB).


> Intel has a line of cards that only work on their CPU lines

Intel sells CNVi versions of their WiFi module lineups that only work on chipsets that support it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNVi


Ah. Sorry I was hasty, some don't support a. All the more reason to include the good one. :) I believe all the intel chips are essentially identical driver wise, but dunno about the unlabeled one. Then again, I would not be picking the unlabeled mystery chip if I were concerned about drivers.

- AX52: AMD Ryzen 7 7700 / 64 GB / 2x1 TB NVMe - From 59€ [1]

- EX44: Intel Core i5-13500 / 64 GB / 2x512 GB NVMe - From 44€ [2]

- EX101: Intel Core i9-13900 / 64 GB / 2x1.92 TB NVMe - From 84€ [3]

[1] https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/ax52

[2] https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/ex44

[3] https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/ex101


The *1’s use CPU offloading and only support Intel CPUs. The *0’s don’t.

> Personally I recommend IvyBridge-EP or Haswell Xeon E5

Err, the ME has been present on every Intel system since 2006 or so.

The only thing that changed with Skylake is that the ME runs on an x86 core, on previous processors the ME ran on some RISC microcontroller.


QNX works in whatever CPU one puts it on, plenty of choice, including plain Intel ones.


I didn't realize Intel had shipped a mobile chip with AVX-512.

Also, Intel for the love of God sort out your product names, use a proper system rather than /dev/random Lake


The old one is code named Abu Dhabi, this new one is Warsaw. Looks like the parent was too quick to post.

According to [1] they are about the same but more energy efficient

[1] http://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/anton-shilov/amd-16-co...


> You can replace you CPU from Intel by another from AMD.

Not unless you also replace the motherboard. AMD and Intel CPUs have different sockets and incompatible firmware.


I don't think Intel has even decided whether to fuse them off or not. In my newest Intel desktop, a Core i7-13700K, AVX-512 is actually available. It wasn't available on the i7-12700K that was in the same system on the same motherboard a few weeks ago.

See http://ark.intel.com/compare/88196,88195 for yourself. There is no important difference besides what's necessary for overclocking.


You have a choice. You need to specifically buy a Q-series chipset to get working AMT.

I presume that's a sign some enterprises are buying it or Intel wouldn't bother with Q-series.

Another story is that the difference between Q and non-Q may be nothing more than firmware and some ROM bits ;)


It's basically the same processor; it stands to reason that the instructions are the same (but maybe not used in the same way).
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