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paganel · 2023-06-09 11:33:35

Got it, thanks for the clarification. Yeah, that is very similar to lying.

Dylan16807 | karma 31639 | avg karma 1.39 · | 2022-09-29 20:25:41

No, that is also lying.

yoyopa | karma 76 | avg karma 0.55 · | 2023-08-21 04:10:03

lying

Nullabillity | karma 4768 | avg karma 1.8 · | 2024-04-18 11:48:38

Lying

reinhardt | karma 3622 | avg karma 3.68 · | 2011-02-03 00:13:52+00:00

Similar to the difference between actively lying and telling part of the whole truth.

scrollaway | karma 28520 | avg karma 4.25 · | 2023-05-02 09:11:22

Lying requires intent and knowledge.

Tuvaloon | karma 9 | avg karma 0.82 · | 2012-12-29 05:41:08+00:00

That is lying. Dishonesty is effective; that doesn't make it honesty.

jumpkick | karma 123 | avg karma 2.46 · | 2022-07-11 11:33:07

That sounds just like lying.

acegopher | karma 425 | avg karma 3.97 · | 2022-01-04 08:27:26

What's the difference? Aren't both knowingly lying to affect an outcome?

hitekker | karma 4286 | avg karma 3.02 · | 2021-02-24 05:33:56+00:00

It's called lying, first to others and then to yourself.

benchaney | karma 1859 | avg karma 2.78 · | 2017-04-28 17:00:53+00:00

Lying is like any other tool. Its morality is based on how its used.

jdmichal | karma 6046 | avg karma 2.16 · | 2016-03-22 01:29:24+00:00

So then there is a payoff to lying?

vageli | karma 2576 | avg karma 1.85 · | 2020-10-22 08:50:15

Lying is a behavior, and cheating is dishonest.

TeMPOraL | karma 106045 | avg karma 3.04 · | 2020-05-20 23:51:13

Exactly. This kind of lying is like return-oriented programming attack. Technically you didn't lie to them, didn't inject them with malicious payload straight up - you just crafted your input to guarantee their mental process generates the malicious payload (the lie) for them.

thenewnewguy | karma 662 | avg karma 2.7 · | 2020-01-14 08:31:02

Lying typically refers to intentional deceit (as in you know what you are saying is false, or at the very least you don't care if what you say is true or not), so you can not be unaware you are lying.

adwi | karma 898 | avg karma 3.61 · | 2022-06-02 08:41:30

Yes, lying is often convenient.

Madmallard | karma 571 | avg karma 0.71 · | 2019-11-20 22:25:20+00:00

Lying is bad

andrewinardeer | karma 1174 | avg karma 2.88 · | 2022-09-23 07:29:37

So lying by ommission?

double_nan | karma 39 | avg karma 0.72 · | 2022-02-08 23:27:04

So it's ok to mislead people so long as you are not lying directly?

jodrellblank | karma 12920 | avg karma 1.96 · | 2011-07-17 19:01:05

I don't quite see how this is different from "say you trust, but act as if you don't", aka "don't trust, but lie about it".