> It will be interesting to see how tactics like this one evolve as ChatGPT use becomes more widespread.
Do you think its possible for generated content to hit frontpage. I thought most of the stuff it generated is pretty prosaic. Also not sure if have an objection to chatgpt content hitting frontpage.
> this has not caused mass social harm despite the tens of millions of users
Isn’t it a bit early to tell? I can foresee ChatGPT being used to farm “karma” on social media sites to bot accounts to credibility on sites like Reddit - maybe even HN.
> ChatGPT is a like a virus that now threatens its life.
Perhaps something needs to be disrupted. The Internet is nothing like what it was 20 years ago, It turned into a bunch of social media walled gardens and SEO spam. ChatGPT is like fresh air because it can actually answer questions in a no-nonsense way without users having to scroll through 5-6 spam websites, paywalls, and crappy user interfaces to get an answer to a simple question.
The only thing that's being threatened is companies like Google who are responsible for the current state of the web.
I have, and I didn't find it to be useful for anything I did. I can do what it does with a search engine and trusty C-f. Also, TTS exists.
It's 50% tech and 50% marketing (and I doubt it's 50% tech at that), it's not gonna upend anything. Except maybe increase the authenticity of online scams and make people get more degrees in machine learning. And yeah, make the people that rely on it bound as it degrades their skills.
It's basically the "internet is educationally useful" argument. At some point everyone's gotta use it but you can live without it just fine. And even though people tout its usefulness for everything good, the majority of data transferred is porno.
> but banning an advancement in technology (even temporary) is usually the first step to irrelevance of those pushing back.
Answers given by chatgpt have a high chance of being incorrect, how is this a ban on advancement in technology? How is banning chatgpt in it's current state unreasonable for a website that tries to provide correct answers?
> My modest proposal is to go the other direction - fill the entire internet with garbage data so that the generative models trained on it become useless.
> instances of users needing to yell at, abuse, or manipulate ChatGPT to get the desired answers
Wait, I thought that's called prompt engineering. But seriously, if what you say actually happens at scale then it is remarkable how fast people got addicted to GPT as their (apparently) only source of desired answers.
> It's utility seems like it will steamroll any attempts to stop or slow it down.
What? I don't see any utility outside of education and even there it's pretty sketchy.
For business, legal compliance is not a joke and instantly shuts it down. The only businesses willing to use ChatGPT for generating code would be naive young startups who don't realize some assembly is still required and the instructions are missing no matter how much they query the bot. That's called expertise (which they don't yet have). It's not good enough to just write the code. Someone has to comprehend it so they can tweak it as needed. At some point the tweaks will become unwieldy and require actual software engineering that the bot doesn't know how to do (transform from one design pattern to another and know which to use). More power to them if they can cobble something together and then succeed at maintaining it. By the time they're through they'll have pulled off so many miracles that they won't need the bot anymore and become experts. That's quite the trial by fire, but hey everyone has to find their way!
> Safety teams within the company pushed to slow things down. These teams worked to refine ChatGPT to refuse certain types of abusive requests and to respond to other queries with more appropriate answers.
I wonder what this struggle means for the future of ChatGPT censorship/safety.
> the entire user-contributed-internet is about to be completely flooded with amicable and true-sounding nonsense with a peppering of whatever viewpoint the bot-runner wants to push.
Feels like that's already happened before ChatGPT.
>> It’s been a little trickier as they’ve nerfed its abilities as public uptake has increased
this is what I've observed as well. There were some things that ChatGPT was doing spectacularly well in the initial days. Now, for the similar queries it is just pointing to the source for more info. Or telling me that it cannot access the web and / or just asking me to do more research by using other platforms.
I wish there was a stable diffusion equivalent for ChatGPT alternative.
If ChatGPT kills Stack Overflow and Reddit/Twitter block API access, where will it gets its answers from?
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