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That’s what people said about CV models in 2011.


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People say about the same for the S, and they came out in 2012.

People said the same thing about the Prius when it was the most popular car.

The infotainment even caused them to be a featured brand in Consumer Report's "least reliable" cars.

I dunno; I had a Nissan cube for 8 years and it was great, including the CVT. I was sad to hear they discontinued the cube.

2011 is about to end, we saw that many leading automobile companies introduced state-of-the-art high tech cars and facilitated the users with wonderful luxurious features. Some of much talked about best selling vehicles of 2011 are as follows;

That isn't a "new" model with all of the uncertainty that goes along with it though. Rav4 and CR-V have established reputations, entrenched supply chains, etc... A better comparison would be brand new models, not refreshed old models.

You know what's important here? Deliveries start Summer 2011. There is so much vaporware with small vehicle companies. Well okay, not vaporware, but years of delays at least. It's a great MVP, not perfect, but still awesome.

> their new designs are gorgeous given the price range.

Definitely. Compare their designs to anything else from Japan and you'll find that they manage to be modern and interesting without being too angular and aggressive (see new Honda Civic, esp. the Type R and the Prius Prime).

Besides that, their driving experiences are tuned for pure joy. The CX-5 is by far the best handling mid-size SUV, and of course the MX-5 is unmatched. Best of all, they still somehow find the time to experiment and create masterpieces like the MX-5 RF.

Now if only they can deliver on Apple CarPlay and Android Auto, then they'll really check all the boxes.

Source: a 2017 MX-5 soft-top was first brand new car.


I’d be wary of comparing models across such a long time period, car makers have a habit of gradually drifting up each model (because it’s hard to release a smaller/simpler model than the preceding one)

To take a European example, a 1990s VW golf is smaller and slower than a 2020 polo.


The most important models, like the S class, the G class, and the AMG GT, still are the top notch in quality, quirks, and performance, but the other aren't like that

C and CLA class models are more like any other regular car with a nicer interior and maybe a better suspension, but at the end they even Renault engines (that aren't so well made), so they aren't so great than older versions.

All of this is AFAIK, so please correct me if there is any mistake.


> the only car that gets better every few months via over the air updates

The Crosstour was such a dorky thing. It had a fastback instead of a proper hatchback which really limited it's utility. For comparison, Honda's CRV had the same engine, more cargo room, and better fuel economy for $5k less.

I don't think anyone ever bought an rx7 for its reliability :) They optimized for smiles-per-kilometer.

That's kind of like saying that this super cheap SUV from 2003 is a better off-roader than the latest Ferrari. Like, true statement, but vacuous none the less.

So they are the Prius of recent years?

Also, Consumer Reports has recently had some very positive things to say about the car.

Yes, CVTs are crap. Every time I consider purchasing a car (used or new) I pass over the CVT offerings — which include most (all?) of Nissan's line up.

Did you actually drove one? Or you just read somewhere about build quality?

This pretty much lines up with my bias (OK not Mini or Porsche). I still don't hold consumer reports in high regard though.
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