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I did, and the bigger margins were just a couple of dollars when all was said and done. In the end, I was still wasting my time with either option. Not complaining because I learned a lot from it.


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Why? Margins matter, not just dollars alone.

If you spend 75 cents to earn a dollar on one customer and can spend 25 cents to earn a dollar on another customer, you'd be dumb not to take customer 2.


That's exactly what I was suggesting: If you are stuck in a low margin business and see that a provider such as google is screwing up your margins, you should really try to work on another idea which has higher margins.

Working on a low margin business is a choice! You can always ditch it and try to find something with higher margins (= higher value created for users).


More margins make for more profit. It's always good to reduce costs regardless of how much you charge.

Probably, but remember that if you're maximizing profit then one $100 margin customer is as important as 1000 $0.10 margin customers.

My experience was 100% different (but also 6+ years ago). Margins just weren't enough to build it into estimates and it was nearly impossible to sell it to clients as a line item.

$10 saved is $10 saved. That's how you increase margins, right?

The article is useful and worth reading for its analysis, but the title makes me curious: are there people that don't think gross margins matter?

There's more to being in a high-margin business than just putting your prices up and watching the money roll in. It depends (among other things) upon what you're selling. My sense is that what Google overlooked was the opportunity to add value.

I'd rather be rich making 30% margins than broke because I charged 200%.

I agree ... although chasing billionths-of-a-cent margins seems pretty pointless too. It is a good thing that there are lots of other options: Stochastic matching? Auction over order-book?

Or why not cut your margins right down, helping your customers and hurting your competitors, like Amazon?

Don't disagree with anything you've said and if your margins are low and volumes are high enough it will be worth trying to shave off some of the fees.

But for a lot (the majority?) of businesses probably want to focus on other things.


"If you’re targeting 50% margins, just double your cost and there you are." Don't want to nitpick but wouldn't that be 100% margin?

I think parent meant it's too cheap? I have a license for Excel, so I can confidently say that the margins work for me, for my expenses and lifestyle. Assuming I hit at least 100 customers, of course. At 500 or 1000 customers I'd retire and write a book.

Is anyone actually fooled by high revenue low margin vs low revenue high margin?

Why do you care what the profit margin is? Either the product or service is worth more to you than the money that they're charging, or it isn't.

In every company, no matter how obscene the margins they're making on a given product, there is someone arguing that those margins could be even larger if they just cut a few corners.

Eventually someone listens to that person, and decades of painstakingly built-up brand value gets thrown out the window in order to bring home six nickels tomorrow instead of five.


> Have you ever run a business where the margins don't even reach fifteen percent?

I'm willing to wager the average margin for an Etsy seller is much better than that, but it makes for a dramatic example to try and prove a point.

> More sales at unsustainable margins are not better than fewer sales.

That's not how margins work.

Scenario 1 - No Participation

- Orders: 1,000

- AOV: $30

- Gross Sales: $30,000

- Cost: $15,000 COGs

- GM $: $15,000

- GM %: 50%

Scenario 2 - Participation

- Orders: 1,000 + 100 Outside Ad Orders

- AOV: $30

- Gross Sales: $33,000

- Cost: $16,500 COGs + $450 = $16,950

- GM $: $16,050

- GM % 48.6%

This is before you factor in other costs, or your time.


... then you still wouldn't make much money because the margins are so low.
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