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"She went to Germany since she had German citizenship (he didn't)."

They were married and had been for a long time (i.e. demonstrably not a "sham marriage"). The husband would have got a permanent residency and work visa in Germany.



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She moved to Germany to provide housing, health care, and education for their younger children. Divorce came later.

She wasn't a German expatriate, as far as I can tell!

From the top of her original article:

> I had already been in the process of moving, permanently, to Germany, and had retained a German immigrations lawyer several months prior to these events. [1]

It's not like she just impulsively thought about Germany and left that week. Yes, it was a catalyst, but it seems to me that she was already on the fence, ready to leave. She even said she was waiting for her visa approval to be accepted after the FBI had made a request to interview her.

[1] https://blog.patternsinthevoid.net/fbi-harassment.html


She was born in the West, yet she had no free will to flip her husband off and go live elsewhere in her town/Germany? What an odd story.

> Still a citizen of Germany, she has the option of repatriating to her homeland, which has a free program for nationals wishing to relocate. She’d be able to get off the plane, connect with social services, and get subsidized housing and medical coverage.

What the hell? She has to threaten and insult people around her and was living in an illegal building, yet has the perfect option open to her.

EDIT: And before anybody says anything about her giving up her life - by the sound of the article, her life consisted of insulting and fighting with all her neighbors. Logically if she had friends, she wouldn't be living in her car - her friends would have helped her out.


"Still a citizen of Germany, she has the option of repatriating to her homeland, which has a free program for nationals wishing to relocate. She’d be able to get off the plane, connect with social services, and get subsidized housing and medical coverage. But for 50 years, she has built a life for herself in San Francisco, and that’s something she doesn’t want to give up."

She didn’t move to Germany, but her kids have EU passports now and for as long as that’s a thing. Mine don’t and I do sometimes feel sad about that.

The id that the court assigned to the case would help a lot.

She also complains that she's been mistreated for being a foreign woman, but based on my experience (I've lived in Berlin as non German) and her English (mine is not better) there is a strong propability that something got lost in translation and they simply misunderstood each other.


I’m not sure if she is a German citizen? That seems a bit quick. I’d assume it has something to do with her medical condition and him (the citizen) being her caretaker instead.

Hmmm… maybe there are some details she is leaving out, but it seems like she decided to be a military spouse abroad on hard mode:

- There are typically base services that support spouses in ways that she griped about — taxes, language instruction, health insurance, cheap gas, big box stores (PX, AAFES), etc.

- She and her husband get a substantial stipend for housing near the base — that is, they don’t pay rent for what will likely be a very nice place by local standards. Plus they can buy stuff at US prices at the base stores. Complaining about prices seems odd.

- She seems to have a shitty attitude. It’s not a surprise that folks aren’t responding well to her.

- Side note: I wonder if she’s actually having marriage problems, and she’s projecting it onto Germany. Her husband does not seem to be helping her much with being a military spouse (e.g., by telling her about base services), and that’s a culture shock of its own.


She never claimed to have moved to Germany. Or to plan it. She wants the option open, especially for her children.

That's already explicitly stated in the article:

> "Lovecruft had intended to move to Germany someday, but she put those plans on overdrive."


> Since she's not on US soil she doesn't have to worry about the FBI physically tracking her down

There is an extradition treaty between the US and Germany.


Even worse- "Still a citizen of Germany, she has the option of repatriating to her homeland, which has a free program for nationals wishing to relocate. She’d be able to get off the plane, connect with social services, and get subsidized housing and medical coverage."

She has a golden ticket to a vast array of social services, but she's tied to a community in one of the most expensive cities in the USA.


Early naturalization for spouses in Germany can happen after 3 years of legal residence, but they only moved mid-2020 according to wikipedia, so she shouldn't be a citizen just yet.

However, extraditing just her (cannot extradite him, he is a citizen) will be probably hard due to technicalities and bureaucracy. The health condition may be a factor in a German court decision. Furthermore the alleged crimes and penalties are a major hurdle... According to the twitter thread, she'd face up to 95 years imprisonment, which creates two legal problems for any extradition: It is a vastly longer sentence than what she'd face in Germany for equivalent crimes - so a German court might require assurances first that in the US she wouldn't face a maximum sentence so vastly different than one she'd face in Germany [0] - and 95 years could be considered by a German court as an effective death sentence and Germany does not allow death sentences - this was the case when Turkey wanted some PKK people extradited on terrorism charges, and had agreed to max life imprisonment without parole instead of a death penalty, but the highest German court then ruled against extradition, saying life imprisonment without parole / likely death in prison is equivalent to a death sentence, as it removes any hope for the prisoner to one day become a free person again, and considered that cruel and inhumane[1].

I'd think she might not have been extradited yet because behind the scenes the US and Germany might be still haggling about what charges with what maximum sentences she might be charged under, before the German state prosecutor office files for extradition on behalf of the US. If she manages to become naturalized before that, that may mean game over for any extradition.

Germany could refuse naturalization based on her alleged criminal behavior, but that's unlikely, as she wasn't convicted and as the alleged crimes are non-violent; Germany will usually only refuse naturalization of spouses when there have been previous convictions or solid allegations of extremist and/or grossly violent crimes.

[0] E.g. Puigdemont, one of the leaders of the Catalonian separatist movement, was requested to be extradited from Germany to Spain on the charge of "rebellion". German courts found that there is no equivalent crime in the German penal code, and refused to extradite on this charge. Spain would have had to drop the rebellion charge, and have him extradited on the lesser misuse of public funds charge, which they weren't willing to do, so the extradition proceedings were aborted.

[1] https://www.bundesverfassungsgericht.de/SharedDocs/Entscheid...


> her conviction led to my emigrating to more civilized lands

Here's to hoping you left the US altogether.


I think Germany is part of the Visa Waiver Program, so she would have had to apply via ESTA before she flew out.

It wouldn't surprise me now if there was a system in place that used the ESTA information to query the NSA/CIA/etc for anything that might be an issue for immigration control.

If she's been talking about working in the USA and hasn't got a visa (ESTA is only for personal visits, not business IIRC), that's enough for the TSA to refuse her entrance for lying to them.


How did she manage to "immigrate" that easily and flight overseas without jeopardizing her legal situation. Seems odd to me.

If you read the end of the article, it turns out she is actually a German citizen, which has "a free program for nationals wishing to relocate. She’d be able to get off the plane, connect with social services, and get subsidized housing and medical coverage." In fact Germany has a very strong social welfare net, she just chooses not to take advantage of that.
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