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Well, you can't really be a small cartel. Even if the other businesses are profitable, a cartel needs a certain size to pay for constant expenses like bribes, armed forces etc. Politicians and the police don't give you a discount because you're small and people still need to be just as intimidated even though you're doing less shit.

Just removing one illegal activity might knock the sum value of dangerous, illegal activities below the threshold where cartels can work.



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Let's review the definition of cartel: "a combination of independent commercial or industrial enterprises designed to limit competition or fix prices"

So a cartel doesn't have to be any particular size.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cartel


As long as the right cartels are able to skim value, I could see this being successful regardless. Cartels are businesses at the end of the day- and they won't totally destroy an industry as long as it's making them money long term. The problems occur when smaller groups start fighting over access to the resources.

It would likely end violence, but why can't these highly-organized, powerful cartels simply pivot into dealing wholesale, once legal?

Cartels only exist because of its illegality. Same reason alcohol smuggling gangsters existed during the US prohibition era.

I don't know about this cartel specifically. I'm making an economic point about cartels generally.

Cartels would continue to exist though. Because there are always other illegal services that need to be provided. Prostitution, gambling, murder-for-hire, mercenaries, unlicensed surgeons, as well as a still-extant illegal drugs market because they are merely cheaper, or sold to those who cannot buy the otherwise state-approved drugs(underage, banned for some reason).

These cartels sound like super agile organizations that can execute any possible business plan, in any industry, legal or illegal.

In reality, of course, no such super-organizations exist. If and when the industry they have a comparative advantage in disappear, so will the organizations.


The cartels would be self-defeating. All it would take is another 'cartel' to do slightly-more work than the other.

it seems that cartels are sometimes very useful

replace one cartel with another

But how would you be able to form a cartel if everyone has a strong financial incentive to rat the others out?

If securing the border differentially cuts off small-time operations more than it cuts off the cartels (even if it partly cuts off some cartel routes), it will raise the cartel's profits by causing prices to rise over and above the decline in sales. That's the basis of the argument that if you really wanted to get rid of cartels, you'd legalize drugs and let small operations make all of them.

Cartels are dynamically unstable. That doesn't mean they can't cause a net social loss during the period in which they are effective.

Because cartels are too profitable.

That's an over simplification. Imagine that drugs, gambling and prostitution were legalized (with restrictions), the cartels would fork off that business into their "legitimate" businesses. Pay taxes and work through there.

Eventually, these would become two separate businesses as enforcement would focus on the connection between the businesses and levy sanctions. History is full of such stories where bootleggers became respected business owners.

The cartel won't disappear, but it will shrink as its big sources of income would become irrelevant. That would mean law enforcement can be more focused and follow a smaller target. Violence will decrease and everybody wins. Additional taxes from these industry fund more policing of the remainder of the cartels.


Creating a cartel is "bad for business"? Are you sure about that?

To be a cartel, you simply need to agree to limit supply to keep prices higher. So it sounds more like a cartel of survival rather than to make obscene profits.

Seriously? Giving monopolies to cartels drives massive profits. Cartels maintain actual military troops. It's hard to believe they'd have any source of crime remotely as lucrative without artificial monopolies making huge margins. Sure, they would do kidnapping, extortion, and so on, but that's not anywhere nearly the amount of easy money.

If the government granted Monsanto a license for weed, cocaine and poppy, the cartels would be cleared out in a month.


Further, even if you did "eliminate" the cartels, more would pop up.

If there is a demand, someone will find a way to make money off of it.

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