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With respect: I expect you probably do know a lot of folks who dual-boot Macs, they just don't talk about it. Everybody assumes I'm all Mac, all the time, because of my day job. And I do rarely dual-boot--because I have VMware Fusion and just virtualize my Boot Camp partition.


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I actually don't know a mac user that doesn't at least have boot camp installed.

Almost everyone I know that owns a Mac dual boots Windows, uses it in a VM, or doesn't use OSX at all. Macs would not have anywhere near the success they have had without Windows compatibility.

You Mac people are so entitled. Tell me this, how come I can't dual boot OS X on my Windows PC?

I think you're very wrong if you assume that most Mac users also run Windows.

Anecdotally, the only Mac users I know who run a VM at all do so for IE testing, or occasionally for some other UNIX variant. Then again, i don't know many people who are super hardcore gamers.


Not all people know that a Mac is commodity PC-based hardware which you can install any operating system you like onto.

In that regard it is a hidden feature, but maybe more so for the Mac than for OS X.


A lot of people I know jumped to the Mac (more than 100 machines) because of bootcamp / vmware. I don't think they would have felt safe otherwise.

Hackintosh users are rare and a special breed in my experience but one thing definitely ties them together - they definitely love Mac more than Mac loves them.

Most people I've heard this rant from, when further questioned, have barely touched a Mac and don't know anything about macOS to be able to substantively trash it.

Approximately how many cumulative weeks have you spent in OS X / macOS?


The original article is confusing.

Boot Camp is of course free, but only permits rebooting a Mac into Windows. For $70 one could purchase VMware Fusion or Parallels Desktop, and run Windows side by side with OS X. The author of the Washington Post piece does not make this clear.

Calling Boot Camp a "secret weapon" suggests that most people aren't aware that Apple computers can run Windows. This may be true in the wider world, although any Apple employee in a retail store could inform customers otherwise.

Expecting a writer not focused on technology to discuss gratis tools like VirtualBox and modern.ie is probably asking too much (although these would be well within the reach of Hacker News readers).


It's also the attitude that's endemic in a lot of Mac forums, so good luck finding out answers when everyone rolls their eyes because you should already know.

I defiantly agree with you. I've never heard mac people sit around and talk about which init system it's running it's a complete non issue. It just doesn't matter to self-hosters and end users in any way shape or form.

Obvious answer: because, contrary to popular belief, not everyone uses macOS.

4. The Mac may be a "lie".

4a. Dual booted, is it running macOS, Linux, Windows, *BSD?

4b. Is it running a VM (or more than one)?

4c. Is it used as a very expensive terminal with SSH to a different *nix OS or a remote desktop system?

At various times, all those have been true of mine.


> Almost everyone uses a Mac. Where? I, actually, don't know anybody who uses mac.

I thought this was going to be about the Intel Management Engine or something. Well, I don't use a Mac. I never have and never will. I run a general-purpose x86-64 computer with Gentoo GNU/Linux on it. It's mine. I know other people don't own their computers. I've known that for years. Other people don't own their cars or houses either.

"Hello. I'm a Mac. And I'm a PC"

Exactly. Now that I have a Mac, Mac fanboys all assume I'm one of them and come up to me in the coffee shop to say, "hey, aren't we so much better than everyone else because of the computers we bought?"

I proceed to rant about all my little pet peeves about Mac OS X and say that as soon as I get around to it I'm installing Boot Camp and putting Linux on it.


I'm sorry but have you considered that there are people who don't actually own a Mac?

As I see it, this is very centric to a specific system and therefore does not offer the best user experience for everyone.


I sometimes see people make the argument that the tiny amount of Mac-users are somehow more important/valuable compared to the immense swath of non-Macs out there, and I always suspect it’s Mac-users trying to assert their own importance, stroke their own ego and/or justify their needless expenditure.

So tell me kind sir: what OS do you use?

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