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Vine's an example of the beginning of great idea that wasn't taken to its full potential. There are significant key differences between vine and tiktok. There are three that come to mind.

Tiktok expanded allowed uploaded video duration up to 3 minutes. The For You Page algorithm (which drives the content you see in the feed) is scarily impressive in how it can match the viewer with content they would most want to see. Lastly, and probably most importantly (in my opinion) Tiktok fosters a home for a vast number of entertaining and informative content creators that give them an edge. Vine mostly went for entertainment in quick six second bursts.



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TikTok (or at least my experience with it) is largely focused on 15-second clips, so I'm not sure duration differences are the significant ones. It seems the algorithm's ability to surface engaging content on a per-user basis is more important than anything else.

> Tiktok fosters a home for a vast number of entertaining and informative content creators that give them an edge

Vine did this too which is a big part of why it's so surprising to me: Vine didn't just have the tech but they had the community. You can still find Vine compilations on YouTube with millions of views that capture the vibrant set of content creators that Vine once had.

Honestly the only real difference between Vine and TikTok in my mind is that Vine was more focused on comedy while TikTok is more focused on music. Otherwise the two services were pretty much identical.


TikTok had a much better creator reimbursement platform and partnerships built in from the start, and benefited a lot from the early work Twitch and YouTube did setting the tone here, as well as the growth of "influencer culture" leading to further brand and advertising involvement in the space.

I always wondered how it got away with using copyrighted music... that was the wow factor for me.

How does it do that? I’ve watched plenty of youtube streams where some of the audio was cut due to background music.

I'm guessing content owners may have realized the value in letting people use tiny sections of their songs. Meme songs on tiktok likely generate huge profits when streams of that song jump.

TikTok started as Musical.ly and had actually signed a deal with labels to use short music clips.

you're leaving out algorithmic discovery and promotion, widely considered tiktok's secret sauce

This is very good.

I would add: the world was not ready for Vine.

The amount of content, the type of it, and the number of people out there willing to make goofy content - I mean young and old alike ... is amazing.

The number of people with cellphones and decent cameras recording 'everything' means we now have all sorts of vidoes of 'guy fishing and whale breaches' or literal lighting strikes etc..

And the normalization of content creation, of likes, of views, the possibility of making money from it etc..

Basically the tools, cultural norms, media and social systems - all reached a critical mass some time after Vine.

If Vine were to have held on, evolved along the lines you indicated, they might have beak TikTok to it.

Oh - and one last point: TikTok started with cute dancing girls among teens. That content category is a great place to start, break through, and get a critical mass going before breaking into parrots swearing, cute babies, and funny challenges.


I think you are spot on.

Just want to add that the content consumption was also hindered by the technology.

Fun Fact: Vine was created in the same year the first CNN completed ImageNet with (much) higher accuracy than others contestants.


You forgot to mention that TikTok enables the use of high quality copywrited music in their videos.

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