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Ryzen is not "next gen" anymore. It will be released in less than two weeks. Not enough time for Intel to come up with anything groundbreaking.


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Not a CPU expert here, but isn't this a comparison of AMD next gen to Intel current gen? Won't Intel have a new CPU out, too, when the Ryzen is actually released?

Ryzen when?

You're probably better off waiting for 3rd gen Ryzen which sounds like it will be a nice all-around performance bump. Should be arriving in ~6 mo.

I'd be very surprised if Intel doesn't have running Ryzen silicon in their Labs right now.

Yeah, I wouldn't set your hopes that high, if that were the case Intel has 4 to 5 generations of silicon already prepped that they could start churning out in volume within 3 months.

Comparatively, AMD has been building chips to order as of late, since they do not have the money to build a bunch of chips that may or may not sell, so your looking at a 3 to 4 month delay before you can get a new chip like Ryzen after announcement.

The cache arrangement (see pic halfway down) and better branch prediction are interesting though, cache has always been a space where Intel has been able to use way less transistors to store the same amount of data.

http://semiaccurate.com/2016/12/13/amds-zen-becomes-ryzen/


I have been looking to upgrade my i7-4770k rig to a Ryzen 5900x, but after seeing this insanity and paying attention to what the mfg's are being vague about, looks like I'll be waiting until June (or later). By then, there may be an entirely new generation of chips ready.

> next-gen mobile Ryzen chips were announced less than a month ago

Technically the only mobile Ryzen chips announced so far are based on Zen 2 which is about to become two generations old. Expect "next-gen" mobile chip announcements in January.

(The recent Zen 4 announcements have been for desktop parts.)


I'm still thinking about my cheap Ryzen-based PC only as a stop-gap solution, until the "real deal", aka Intel 7nm CPUs, premieres in 2021 (fingers crossed) .

Dear Intel: Stick to CPUs, GPUs, chipsets and NUCs. Pretty please. Unless of course you are counting on AMD for the next advance in processing - a bad idea at this point.

Easy talk aside it really is going to be tough for Intel to figure out the next.


I'm guessing that nobody wants to buy new CPUs until a whole new architecture is available. Bad luck in the timing.

If only they would have waited for Ryzen :-P

It's Skylake-based, so we won't see this for at least two years, and that's assuming Intel isn't forced to delay again.

What I really wonder is when this chip would have been released if AMD didn't come out with Ryzen line up in 2017.

The new processor isn't sold yet.

that chip has been out for about 6 months and intel release a new generation every 9 months or so

it's not exactly unexpected


Unfortunately for Intel, it is probably too late. The specs of new processors are not impressing even in comparison with previous Tesla generation.

I think Ryzen 3 is coming this year, so it might be better to wait a bit.

No, the next generation is a "tock" in Intel parlance, which is a whole new microarchitecture.

Depends which next Ryzen you mean. 6000 series has been out for almost 6 months. CPU is the same, gpu is much better. The 7000 are expected to be much better - zen 4 + rdna 3. Yummy
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