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I have been looking to upgrade my i7-4770k rig to a Ryzen 5900x, but after seeing this insanity and paying attention to what the mfg's are being vague about, looks like I'll be waiting until June (or later). By then, there may be an entirely new generation of chips ready.


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I'm guessing that nobody wants to buy new CPUs until a whole new architecture is available. Bad luck in the timing.

Yeah, I wouldn't set your hopes that high, if that were the case Intel has 4 to 5 generations of silicon already prepped that they could start churning out in volume within 3 months.

Comparatively, AMD has been building chips to order as of late, since they do not have the money to build a bunch of chips that may or may not sell, so your looking at a 3 to 4 month delay before you can get a new chip like Ryzen after announcement.

The cache arrangement (see pic halfway down) and better branch prediction are interesting though, cache has always been a space where Intel has been able to use way less transistors to store the same amount of data.

http://semiaccurate.com/2016/12/13/amds-zen-becomes-ryzen/


Not a CPU expert here, but isn't this a comparison of AMD next gen to Intel current gen? Won't Intel have a new CPU out, too, when the Ryzen is actually released?

You're probably better off waiting for 3rd gen Ryzen which sounds like it will be a nice all-around performance bump. Should be arriving in ~6 mo.

This is that refresh. Next processors look like they will be delayed until late 2015.

A new processor architecture. Wait a couple months and you'll probably have the computer you wanted released too.

Alright, let's use the brainpower and some history.

The new Intel chips would arrive in 2023.

5 years before that Intel shipped Coffee Lake.

5 years before that Intel shipped Haswell.

5 years before that Intel shipped Yorkfield Core 2 Quads.


Ryzen is not "next gen" anymore. It will be released in less than two weeks. Not enough time for Intel to come up with anything groundbreaking.

that chip has been out for about 6 months and intel release a new generation every 9 months or so

it's not exactly unexpected


I think Ryzen 3 is coming this year, so it might be better to wait a bit.

Ryzen 3 3100 was launched in May 2020 about ten months after the Ryzen 7 3700X, so I would expect a pretty long lead time following the Ryzen 7 5800X launch.

Still if you're shopping in this category, I'm not sure it's worth it to wait for next generation.


But next year even new/better CPUs and GPUs will appear, right? Why not wait until next year?

I am waiting for my 3970x to arrive next week (it was a long wait to get a GPU and 256gb of RAM due to shortages) and I am already thinking that maybe I should have waited just a bit longer. That is after not upgrading my Ivy Bridge quad for about 7 years due to lackluster offerings from Intel. It's very exciting these days thanks to AMD!

My impression is that they know moore's gravy train is over and they're scrambling to figure out new tricks to allow them to sell a new generation of processors every year. Personally, while I'm a little disappointed that processors 20 years from now might not be 4+ orders of magnitude faster than the one I have now, I wouldn't mind being able to buy a computer and not have to worry about upgrading it for 10 years (I think we're pretty close to this point already).

Hopefully the CPUs will be available soon.

I feel like they'll wait until Ryzen 4th gen comes out since that will be on new silicon (tho still 7nm), leaving a bit of room for extra production of their APUs for DIY since this is still Zen 2 chips just with the 4000 naming.

If Intel promises a deadline, it will likely take at least 6-12 months longer. I doubt they will be able to make 7nm chips in any reasonable numbers, if at all, by 2023. Maybe mid-2023.

I'm going to wait for late 2024 gpus or 2025 cpus and do a cost analysis.

Same. I was waiting for Skylake to upgrade but doesn't seem worth it; I'll probably wait for a 2x performance boost on the i5-2500k, which seems to be still a long way off. Although it seems disappointing perhaps I should be grateful I got lucky and chose the right generation last time I upgraded.
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