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floam · 2024-05-13 11:48:53

It’s the past and present, what do you think will change if nothing changes?

kadoban | karma 6395 | avg karma 2.46 · | 2022-04-08 00:43:22

What will change?

PlunderBunny | karma 743 | avg karma 2.45 · | 2023-10-19 02:01:05

They always say nothing will change. It's the surest indication that there will be changes.

sulam | karma 4978 | avg karma 3.21 · | 2021-06-02 20:53:28+00:00

Wow, yeah, never say that. Even if you believe it's true, saying nothing will change is sort of like waving a red flag in front of the bull. Of course things will change over time, they always do!

szundi | karma 1036 | avg karma 1.31 · | 2024-06-13 14:07:13

This topic is just about wether this changes or not

hammyhavoc | karma 3326 | avg karma 1.23 · | 2023-12-30 05:48:28

If it didn't change already then it likely never will.

jackmaney | karma 910 | avg karma 1.21 · | 2015-06-04 15:08:57+00:00

And what makes you think that this couldn't change at literally any time?

tmikaeld | karma 3701 | avg karma 2.29 · | 2014-12-03 09:17:37

My first thought as well, why change when nothing have changed.

travisjungroth | karma 6418 | avg karma 3.48 · | 2022-04-21 15:46:17

Then it seems like you’ve just stated a tautology. Things don’t change unless they do.

sama | karma 23059 | avg karma 24.4 · | 2016-09-27 23:05:43+00:00

It would be surprising if they don't change, but I haven't thought enough about it to have any strong belief about where they're going.

ptah | karma 1154 | avg karma 1.17 · | 2019-08-22 15:28:29+00:00

my current view is that the change will happen to us regardless. we will be forced to respond in some way

jader201 | karma 6978 | avg karma 6.37 · | 2021-06-11 03:36:14

By that logic, who’s to say “things won’t change” again, such that they find there is cause for concern after all?

I’m not saying that’s what I believe, but if you’re admitting that we’re “changing and updating our beliefs as evidence comes in”, that also implies that we didn’t — and may still not — have all the data in front of us to make decisions.

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tomjen3 | karma 9638 | avg karma 1.0 · | 2019-04-29 18:35:12+00:00

Nothing. I no longer believe anything is possible, so we will simply have to deal with the changes.

allendoerfer | karma 3507 | avg karma 2.66 · | 2015-01-27 23:03:22+00:00

In a sense, things do not change, they stop to be changed from a assumed state.

OldCoder | karma 78 | avg karma 1.73 · | 2014-03-19 10:12:04

It'll happen over time. I'm not sure of the right answer, but people on all sides are aware that changes are needed.

bozhidar | karma 1535 | avg karma 19.19 · | 2021-11-06 08:23:35

One can argue that things stay the same until someone (and by this I don't mean a single person) tries hard enough to change them - e.g. now there are dating apps where men simply can't start the conversation. Accepting the status quo as the law of nature certainly won't change anything.

fredfoobar | karma 186 | avg karma 0.76 · | 2021-05-18 19:57:20+00:00

Yeah yeah, everything can always be changed in the future.

nathants | karma 465 | avg karma 0.74 · | 2023-05-17 16:03:49

change is the only constant. then and now.

alexandercrohde | karma 6253 | avg karma 4.53 · | 2020-01-03 15:57:33+00:00

This is irrelevant all-or-nothing thinking.

Of course all things change -- that doesn't mean something changing for the worse is therefore inevitable or less shameful

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kaminar | karma -21 | avg karma -0.05 · | 2021-08-11 22:00:45

Humans have been through this many times before...the only constant is change.